Should i tell him?

2007-12-31 22:26:54

I was just diagnosed with hpv. i do not have warts and never have had
warts. I'm afraid to tell my boyfriend. I'm afraid he will flip out.
even though i'm pretty sure he was the one who gave it to me...for
all i know i could have had it for years before i even met him. if i
don't have the kind of hpv that causes warts then is there any real
risk to him? he must already have it anyway. The nurse at my doctors
office says that it wouldn't hurt him, he would just be a carrier of
the disease. we will probably get married, so if he's only going to
be sleeping with me anyway and i already have it, is there any harm
in not telling him? you can email me at isaacs_girl@...

Recently diagnosed.....extremely confused...PLEASE HELP

2007-12-31 21:00:44

I just had a baby in august and all went well. i went for my
6 week checkup after having the baby and everything was routine.
about 3 weeks later i was called by my doctor and told i needed to
have a biopsy done because my pap test had come back with pre-
cancerous abnormal cells. I went to my appointment, the nurse
mentioned that most people who have this problem also have hpv. but
when i asked her if i had it she said no. my doctor did the biopsy
and a week later (3 days ago) they called me and said i would have to
have surgery. i was, and still am very confused about exactly what is
wrong with me. they then told me on the phone that i had hpv, she
even said something about not even screening the biopsy because they
decided that must be what the problem was. she said something about
bad cells spreading from one side of my cervix to the other. They
have only given me a vague idea of whats going on and i'm supposed to
have surgery in 2 days! i asked what i should do about my boyfriend
and they said not to worry about him that men are just carriers. but
when i began researching it, it seems to me that men can be affected
pretty badly too. should i get a second opinion? do i have to stop
having sex with my boyfriend? if i have it does that mean that he
already does too? will i develop warts? if i need surgery does that
mean i already have cancer? has anyone else had an experience similar
to mine? Anyone that can give me a few answers please help me. you
can email me at isaacs_girl@...

HELP!!!...I need reassurance..

2007-12-31 10:34:57

Hi guys,
I'm a 22 year old with HPV....I found out about it through a bad pap
test that led to a colposcopy. Luckily I was fine and currently
don't have to have another procedure...Basically I have everything
under control health wise...
However...
My problem is my ex-boyfriend...
We were together for two years but I ended the relationship in
May....Two months later I found out about the HPV and contacted
him...he admitted to me that he had had a break out of GW a month
earlier....I have never had an outbreak of GW but I know that I am
at serious risk for them...The main problem in this lies in the fact
that he blames me!!!.....he claims that he has figured it out and it
was me who passed them on to him...this is possible but it is also
very likely that he contracted them another way...he did have
unprotected sex with several women before I met him....his reasoning
behind blaming me is that because of the location of his outbreak
(his ass) it must have been from me because he was the most intimate
with me and therefore I would have had the most opportunities to
touch his ass....this seems like the most lame excuse for reasoning
that I have ever heard!!!....however I need reassurance...does GW
first appear in the area where the initial contraction
happened??...or does it appear wherever??....I ended the
relationship with this guy because he was mentally and emotionally
abusive towards me....but now I need reassurnace in my own mind that
his reasoning is false.
Thanks a million,
MF99

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-31 07:24:40

Just wanted to say have a good time tonight ryan

Re: [hpv_support] Interesting information/article by Ph.Ds from Specialty Laboratories

2007-12-30 17:18:40

great article, stated in terms that were understandable but, disconcerting
nonetheless . . . .

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-30 12:48:55

It looked like he didnt hav to work to hard to let her win She was a badass( yummy). Well i've been seeing this chick aboput every other day this week. andshe wants to chill tonite. Of course i have nt told her about my little set back. She's a litler odler soo i am hoping she will be more understanding. if not all well.more on that lata. Can you tel what fighting style or martial art spike practices? how old are you princess? and glad to hear he is chill now gotta run time to work write back soom

lata playas
B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

lol...that was the sweetest line in the moive if I do say so myself(guys always let you win)..so you like Spike eh?

I used to work with someone who looked like that drawing..flipped me out..lol..thanks for your advice...things are working out..he has talked about things I needed to hear,I think all that avide helped plus I was being all crazy,thinking $&*# he never said...I think we are

starting fresh...if he wants me he will stay this way,if not...I got places to go..know whata mean? [INLINE]

Peace

B-
ryan martinez <bebop0713@...

damn princess im sorry sweety. There are other good men. But as in everything else in life its not for sure. At least it isnt years like it was wit me and my ex. But honestly if i were you, i wouold have to say that i would not put up with it. I would do my best to just be like hey call me when ur ready to be real wit me. and if he doesnt call fuck em. He's there cuz you care for him not becuz you need him. There's a difference. On a more pos. note bebop would be my fav. and spike is bad ass i admire his independence and strength. and when he tel s that chick he was fighting in the movie," i just luv a women that can kick my ass" LOL fuck yeah !!!!!!

Hey Guys,

My loveing boyfriend of 9 months has yet informed me agian of the fact that I am just somebody he's seeing for now,after all we have been through I am just a pebble on the beach to this fool who says he loves me.I ain't looking to get married tommarow or 'nuthin but hell,telling me I ain't nothing more then some girl he dated and thier is no way in hell we are ever going to be more is mean,I don't care how nice he pretends to be.He has been exposed to this virus,I still wonder what he thinks ,sounds like he don't know he has this at all,he has had some damn bumps he got on his belly removed painfully twice and when they frist appeared had the nerve to ask if I cheated on him,I had no bumps or nothing ,later that week I had shaveing bumps appear,or so I think,they went away fast on me he's had them for awhile.I never had anything like them or knew anybody who had them it's something that starts with an M..Malascopia or something..

Anyhow,I am sweet and careing and gave him the chance to go now if he wanted.He says he wants to be with me but if I want out I can go anytime, I am really pretty too and don't have a shortage of guys waiting for him to f%&$ up,promblem is I fell for this guy,he's sweet in a lot of ways nobody else has ever been.He is the kind of man I would waste time with for awhile longer if I didn't think about the fact we eventually have to spilt.

I am scared of dateing anymore too,I want to get married now I think but not until I dated someone long enough to be sure.I don't know if I can look at him the same anymore,how can someone be so kind yet make me hurt so bad?How can someone so smart think I am the only one with this virus?How can he think I gave him those damn bumps???I want someone better and I know he's out thier...but should I stay around longer to finish the year?I love his family and his friends are soo cool.

Part of me hates him that he is so blind,I am above average in so many ways and he will never be as well taken care of as he was with me.I have been crying for days,lost pounds in water..lol..I don't know what I want....

Sara..what would you do?Ryan???

I remember this old moive wacthed with my moma one day when I was young where this guy went through hell for real to be with his wife one more day.I know he loves me too..but what can happen in these years or months that will not make it hurt any less when he says my time is up???

I wish I never met him sometimes,I don't need this pain, but seems some of us just live the bules...

B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

No...what channel is it on?I will look for it if I can get it here...I love anime buddies..they help me more goodies!!

Peace

B-
Sara Mclaughlin <shkidiliump@...

Hey B,

Have you ever seen Fruits Basket??? That is my favorite anime show!

~ Braissen

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-30 05:21:36

lol...that was the sweetest line in the moive if I do say so myself(guys always let you win)..so you like Spike eh?

I used to work with someone who looked like that drawing..flipped me out..lol..thanks for your advice...things are working out..he has talked about things I needed to hear,I think all that avide helped plus I was being all crazy,thinking $&*# he never said...I think we are

starting fresh...if he wants me he will stay this way,if not...I got places to go..know whata mean? [INLINE]

Peace

B-
ryan martinez <bebop0713@...

damn princess im sorry sweety. There are other good men. But as in everything else in life its not for sure. At least it isnt years like it was wit me and my ex. But honestly if i were you, i wouold have to say that i would not put up with it. I would do my best to just be like hey call me when ur ready to be real wit me. and if he doesnt call fuck em. He's there cuz you care for him not becuz you need him. There's a difference. On a more pos. note bebop would be my fav. and spike is bad ass i admire his independence and strength. and when he tel s that chick he was fighting in the movie," i just luv a women that can kick my ass" LOL fuck yeah !!!!!!

Hey Guys,

My loveing boyfriend of 9 months has yet informed me agian of the fact that I am just somebody he's seeing for now,after all we have been through I am just a pebble on the beach to this fool who says he loves me.I ain't looking to get married tommarow or 'nuthin but hell,telling me I ain't nothing more then some girl he dated and thier is no way in hell we are ever going to be more is mean,I don't care how nice he pretends to be.He has been exposed to this virus,I still wonder what he thinks ,sounds like he don't know he has this at all,he has had some damn bumps he got on his belly removed painfully twice and when they frist appeared had the nerve to ask if I cheated on him,I had no bumps or nothing ,later that week I had shaveing bumps appear,or so I think,they went away fast on me he's had them for awhile.I never had anything like them or knew anybody who had them it's something that starts with an M..Malascopia or something..

Anyhow,I am sweet and careing and gave him the chance to go now if he wanted.He says he wants to be with me but if I want out I can go anytime, I am really pretty too and don't have a shortage of guys waiting for him to f%&$ up,promblem is I fell for this guy,he's sweet in a lot of ways nobody else has ever been.He is the kind of man I would waste time with for awhile longer if I didn't think about the fact we eventually have to spilt.

I am scared of dateing anymore too,I want to get married now I think but not until I dated someone long enough to be sure.I don't know if I can look at him the same anymore,how can someone be so kind yet make me hurt so bad?How can someone so smart think I am the only one with this virus?How can he think I gave him those damn bumps???I want someone better and I know he's out thier...but should I stay around longer to finish the year?I love his family and his friends are soo cool.

Part of me hates him that he is so blind,I am above average in so many ways and he will never be as well taken care of as he was with me.I have been crying for days,lost pounds in water..lol..I don't know what I want....

Sara..what would you do?Ryan???

I remember this old moive wacthed with my moma one day when I was young where this guy went through hell for real to be with his wife one more day.I know he loves me too..but what can happen in these years or months that will not make it hurt any less when he says my time is up???

I wish I never met him sometimes,I don't need this pain, but seems some of us just live the bules...

B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

No...what channel is it on?I will look for it if I can get it here...I love anime buddies..they help me more goodies!!

Peace

B-
Sara Mclaughlin <shkidiliump@...

Hey B,

Have you ever seen Fruits Basket??? That is my favorite anime show!

~ Braissen

Article: Cervical Cancer -- A Single Vaccine Could Benefit Most Women

2007-12-30 03:34:35

Cervical Cancer -- A Single Vaccine Could Benefit Most Women
Thu Oct 23, 8:00 PM ET

Source: Federation of European Cancer Societies

Copenhagen, Denmark -- The risk of developing cervical cancer by women infected with the Human Papillomavirus (HPV) is essentially the same no matter which type of virus is involved, provided it belongs to the group of 15 or so that are currently identified as high risk, a scientist said today.
Speaking at ECCO 12 -- The European Cancer Conference in Copenhagen, Dr. Xavier Bosch, of the Institut Català d'Oncologia, Barcelona, Spain, said that testing with a cocktail of the majority of high risk type virus would provide a sufficient answer for clinical guidance, and be important to the success of any future screening or vaccination programs.
HPV is an extremely common sexually transmitted infection. In many cases the infections are harmless and go away without the need for treatment.
But persistent infection with certain types of HPV increases the risk of cervical cancer. These types can be detected in 90-100% of cases of cervical cancer, as opposed to 5-20% of controls. These types are believed to be a necessary cause of cervical cancer and this provides a strong rationale for their use in screening and for the development of anti-HPV vaccines.
"Women who are not infected persistently with one of the cancer-causing types of HPV do not develop cervical cancer", said Dr. Bosch, "and this knowledge is helping us develop effective prevention programs."
Dr. Bosch and colleagues derived their specific risk estimates from studying a pool of evidence collected by IARC, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, based in Lyon, France. In Europe it is estimated that 65,000 new cases of cervical cancer are diagnosed each year, of which 21,000 eventually lead to death. HPV carriers are typically young and sexually active, and evidence suggests that males and females are equally likely to be carriers. "In Europe and North America a vaccine including HPV 16 and 18 -- the most common high risk types of the virus -- would prevent 72% of cases among the vaccinated", said Dr. Bosch. "A vaccine containing types 16,18,33,31 and 45 would cover 84% of the cases."
HPV vaccinations are still in the experimental stage, and the vaccine would be expensive at introduction, said Dr. Bosch. "But the gains in the longer term would be huge, both in terms of healthcare costs and in women's quality of life. In the meantime, participation in effective screening programs, particularly if they includes HPV testing, can detect and prevent many potential cases of cervical cancer at a very early stage."
Reference:
Abstract no: 84 (Monday 22 September, 14.00 hrs CET. Cervical cancer latest update session).

loneliness..guys I need your help.. &lt; listen 2 Sara&amp; A A

2007-12-29 23:05:40

They got some good stuff to say. brilliance i tell ya.
B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

Hey Guys,

My loveing boyfriend of 9 months has yet informed me agian of the fact that I am just somebody he's seeing for now,after all we have been through I am just a pebble on the beach to this fool who says he loves me.I ain't looking to get married tommarow or 'nuthin but hell,telling me I ain't nothing more then some girl he dated and thier is no way in hell we are ever going to be more is mean,I don't care how nice he pretends to be.He has been exposed to this virus,I still wonder what he thinks ,sounds like he don't know he has this at all,he has had some damn bumps he got on his belly removed painfully twice and when they frist appeared had the nerve to ask if I cheated on him,I had no bumps or nothing ,later that week I had shaveing bumps appear,or so I think,they went away fast on me he's had them for awhile.I never had anything like them or knew anybody who had them it's something that starts with an M..Malascopia or something..

Anyhow,I am sweet and careing and gave him the chance to go now if he wanted.He says he wants to be with me but if I want out I can go anytime, I am really pretty too and don't have a shortage of guys waiting for him to f%&$ up,promblem is I fell for this guy,he's sweet in a lot of ways nobody else has ever been.He is the kind of man I would waste time with for awhile longer if I didn't think about the fact we eventually have to spilt.

I am scared of dateing anymore too,I want to get married now I think but not until I dated someone long enough to be sure.I don't know if I can look at him the same anymore,how can someone be so kind yet make me hurt so bad?How can someone so smart think I am the only one with this virus?How can he think I gave him those damn bumps???I want someone better and I know he's out thier...but should I stay around longer to finish the year?I love his family and his friends are soo cool.

Part of me hates him that he is so blind,I am above average in so many ways and he will never be as well taken care of as he was with me.I have been crying for days,lost pounds in water..lol..I don't know what I want....

Sara..what would you do?Ryan???

I remember this old moive wacthed with my moma one day when I was young where this guy went through hell for real to be with his wife one more day.I know he loves me too..but what can happen in these years or months that will not make it hurt any less when he says my time is up???

I wish I never met him sometimes,I don't need this pain, but seems some of us just live the bules...

B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

No...what channel is it on?I will look for it if I can get it here...I love anime buddies..they help me more goodies!!

Peace

B-
Sara Mclaughlin <shkidiliump@...

Hey B,

Have you ever seen Fruits Basket??? That is my favorite anime show!

~ Braissen

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-29 10:52:24

damn princess im sorry sweety. There are other good men. But as in everything else in life its not for sure. At least it isnt years like it was wit me and my ex. But honestly if i were you, i wouold have to say that i would not put up with it. I would do my best to just be like hey call me when ur ready to be real wit me. and if he doesnt call fuck em. He's there cuz you care for him not becuz you need him. There's a difference. On a more pos. note bebop would be my fav. and spike is bad ass i admire his independence and strength. and when he tel s that chick he was fighting in the movie," i just luv a women that can kick my ass" LOL fuck yeah !!!!!!

Hey Guys,

My loveing boyfriend of 9 months has yet informed me agian of the fact that I am just somebody he's seeing for now,after all we have been through I am just a pebble on the beach to this fool who says he loves me.I ain't looking to get married tommarow or 'nuthin but hell,telling me I ain't nothing more then some girl he dated and thier is no way in hell we are ever going to be more is mean,I don't care how nice he pretends to be.He has been exposed to this virus,I still wonder what he thinks ,sounds like he don't know he has this at all,he has had some damn bumps he got on his belly removed painfully twice and when they frist appeared had the nerve to ask if I cheated on him,I had no bumps or nothing ,later that week I had shaveing bumps appear,or so I think,they went away fast on me he's had them for awhile.I never had anything like them or knew anybody who had them it's something that starts with an M..Malascopia or something..

Anyhow,I am sweet and careing and gave him the chance to go now if he wanted.He says he wants to be with me but if I want out I can go anytime, I am really pretty too and don't have a shortage of guys waiting for him to f%&$ up,promblem is I fell for this guy,he's sweet in a lot of ways nobody else has ever been.He is the kind of man I would waste time with for awhile longer if I didn't think about the fact we eventually have to spilt.

I am scared of dateing anymore too,I want to get married now I think but not until I dated someone long enough to be sure.I don't know if I can look at him the same anymore,how can someone be so kind yet make me hurt so bad?How can someone so smart think I am the only one with this virus?How can he think I gave him those damn bumps???I want someone better and I know he's out thier...but should I stay around longer to finish the year?I love his family and his friends are soo cool.

Part of me hates him that he is so blind,I am above average in so many ways and he will never be as well taken care of as he was with me.I have been crying for days,lost pounds in water..lol..I don't know what I want....

Sara..what would you do?Ryan???

I remember this old moive wacthed with my moma one day when I was young where this guy went through hell for real to be with his wife one more day.I know he loves me too..but what can happen in these years or months that will not make it hurt any less when he says my time is up???

I wish I never met him sometimes,I don't need this pain, but seems some of us just live the bules...

B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

No...what channel is it on?I will look for it if I can get it here...I love anime buddies..they help me more goodies!!

Peace

B-
Sara Mclaughlin <shkidiliump@...

Hey B,

Have you ever seen Fruits Basket??? That is my favorite anime show!

~ Braissen

Interesting information/article by Ph.Ds from Specialty Laboratories

2007-12-29 03:35:54

[INLINE] print

10/23/03

Human Papillomavirus
J. Sanders Sevall, Ph.D. & Stacey B. Weston, Ph.D.

More than 90 different human papillomaviruses (HPVs) have been identified. All are small DNA viruses that can infect epithelial cells and can cause a variety of hyperplastic leisons.^1 Most HPVs are associated with warts (or papillomas), which are benign tumors, either in the skin or in oropharyngeal, esophageal, or genital mucosa. Cutaneous and genital warts can be eradicated by topical therapy, freezing, or surgery if they are unattractive or uncomfortable. If left untreated, warts often regress spontaneously. ^1 Each HPV type has its own tissue specificity, clinical association and risk of malignant transformation. Cutaneous palmar and plantar warts are widespread and contain HPV type 1, 2, 3, 4 or 10 and sometimes type 28 or 29 and type 26, 27 or 28 in immunocompromised patients.^2 The risk for malignant transformation is essentially zero. Epidermodysplasia verruciformis is a rare hereditary skin disorder that develops into skin cancer in sun-exposed areas and is
associated with rare HPV types, particularly types 5 and 8, but also types 9, 12, 14, 15, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 36, 46, 47 and 50. Laryngeal papillomas are benign epithelial tumors associated with HPV types 6 and 11.

About 20 HPV types are associated with genital warts, or condyloma acuminata, the third most common sexually transmitted disease, and rapidly increasing in incidence. About 90% of exophytic condyloma acuminata are associated with "low risk" HPV-types 6 and 11.^3 Other "low risk" types include 30, 42, 43 and 44.^2,4 Genital malignancies, including moderate to severe dysplasia and invasive carcinoma of the cervix, vulva, anus and penis^5 are associated with the "high risk" HPV types 16, 18, 45 and 56. The "intermediate risk" group includes HPV 31, 33, 35, 39, 51, 58 and 61.^3 HPV DNA is detectable by PCR in 92% of squamous cell carcinomas of the uterine cervix and 75% of adenocarcinomas of the uterine cervix.

HPV type 16 predominates in 50-60% of cervical cancers; HPV type 18 is found in 10-20%. HPV 45 and HPV 31 are the next most common HPV types in invasive cervical carcinoma with frequencies of 5-10% each. Squamous cell carcinoma is associated with HPV type 16 (HPV type 16 [78%] versus HPV type 18 [16%]); whereas, adenocarcinoma is associated with HPV type 18 (HPV type 16 17% versus HPV type 18 [56%]).^6 Phylogenetically, the HPV from the "high" and "intermediate" groups can be divided into three carcinogenic groups: HPV type 16-related (HPV 16, 31, 33, 35, 52 and 58), HPV type 18-related (HPV 18, 39, 45, 59 and 68) and HPV type 51-related (HPV 51 and 56).^7

In situ hybridization (ISH) can be used to detect and type HPV DNA, while at the same time retaining the tissue architecture, thus ensuring that the histopathological lesion is the source of HPV DNA.^8 Partially degenerate non-radioactive biotinylated probes for HPV types 6/11, 16/18 and 31/33/35 show HPV type 6/11 in 100% of condyloma acuminata; flat venereal warts contain both HPV types 6/11 (4%) and 16/18 (62%), and CIN 1-3 contain either HPV types 16/18 or 31/33/35.^9,10 Using ISH probes to HPV types 6, 11, 16, 18, 31, 33 and 51, HPV-DNA is detectable in 18% of CIN I, 30% of CIN II, 28% of CIN III, 84% of flat condyloma, 11% of cervical adenocarcinoma, 21% of squamous cell carcinoma and 13% of normal cervical tissue.^11 The most common consensus primer set for the detection of HPV by polymerase chain reaction (PCR) uses the L1 region of the genome, but its length of 450bp hampers efficient amplification, especially in formalin-fixed tissue, or if L1 is deleted, which
commonly occurs in invasive cancer. The E6 and E7 regions can be used, but type-specific primers are required, which limits the detection range of HPV types.^12Consensus primers to the combined E1/L1 region detect diverse HPV types,^13 and probe hybridization^14,15 or sequencing^16 is used to identify the specific HPV type. PCR is more sensitive than Southern blot, and detects HPV sequences in 90% versus 57% of stage I and II cervical cancer.^17 The discordance is due to the inability of Southern blot to detect low copy number. The likelihood that CIN 2 or worse is present when HPV types 16, 31, or 33 and 18 are detected by PCR is 88%, and 36%, respectively.^18 The presence of HPV 16 correctly predicts CIN 2 or worse in 93% of patients.^19 When dot blot, PCR and cytology are used in combination, the detection rate for any CIN is 91%.^20 HPV is detectable in the urine by PCR in 87% of women with condylomata, CIN 1 or worse.^21

Hybrid capture, where DNA target/RNA probe hybrids are detected by anti-RNA/DNA antibody, distinguishes low-risk HPV types 6, 11, 42, 43, and 44 from intermediate- and high-risk types 16, 18, 31, 33, 35, 45, 51, 52 and 56 has replaced dot blot and Southern blot as the method of choice. It has a sensitivity of detecting high-risk squamous intraepithelial lesions of 74% when used alone, and 91% when combined with cytology of cervical scrapings.^22,23 Hybrid capture correlates with PCR.^24

Of all the molecular methods of detection of HPV DNA, only PCR and hybrid capture have enough sensitivity to be used clinically. The detection limit of PCR is 10 to 100 HPV genomes and for hybrid capture the detection limit is about 5,000 HPV genomes whereas Southern blot has a detection limit of about 100,000 HPV genomes.^4 A series of studies support the use of PCR-based techniques for the diagnosis of high risk HPV infection. The advent of rapid real time PCR in the analysis of high risk HPV allows type 16 to be differentiated from type 18 on the basis of melting point^25,which might prove beneficial in screening programs.

Re-screening of HPV-negative carcinomas from a multinational study show that 99.8% of all cervical squamous cell carcinomas are HPV positive.^26-28 In the multinational study, negative HPV results are explained mainly by a lack of morphological confirmation of cervical cancer in the tissue. Of 930 carcinomas only two did not contain HPV-DNA. This very small percentage renders the question whether a high risk HPV-independent pathway for squamous cell carcinoma of the cervix exists or is clinically irrelevant.^29 Also in cervical adenocarcinomas a prevalence of high risk HPV of more than 90% is found.^30,31

Prevalence of high risk HPV types in women with normal cervical cytology is age dependent, reaching a peak prevalence of about 10% between 20 and 24 years of age and decreasing to about 3% in women over 30 years.^32,33 Moreover, it appears that in a population based cohort (age 34-54 years) in The Netherlands the acquisition of high risk HPV types is about 0.5% per year while the clearance is about 39% per year, which complies with the prevalence of 3%.^34Therefore, high risk HPV testing in population-based screening for women over 30 years of age is advocated.^35-37

Only women with persistent high-risk HPV infections, either in cytological abnormal or normal smears,^ ,34,35,38-40 show progressive CIN. The progression rate of CIN in women with high-risk HPV-positive, cytologically normal or abnormal smears is about 5% per year. Women with a high risk HPV-positive, cytologically normal smear (age over 30 years) have a 116-times higher chance of developing CIN III than women with an HPV-negative, cytologically normal smear.

Although primary screening by cytology with referral to colposcopy has dramatically reduced mortality and morbidity due to cervical cancer, cytology is inherently insensitive. Pap screening for cervical neoplasia has a sensitivity of about 50-60% and a specificity of about 90%. In an attempt to increase the sensitivity of cytology, patients diagnosed with "atypical cells of undetermined significance" (ASCUS, a heterogeneous mixture of cervical pathology from non-specific inflammatory changes, subtle HPV infection to a pre-cancerous lesion) are referred to colposcopy; however, many women with minor smear abnormalities will be negative at colposcopy.^41 The "gold standard" for the final diagnosis is determined by histology at colposcopy, which can be categorized as a high-grade intraepithelial lesion (HSIL), low-grade intraepithelial lesion (LSIL), equivocal (histology negative, but cytology ASCUS or higher) or clearly negative (both histology and cytology). Hybrid capture HPV
DNA preformed on repeat Pap smear cytology is predictive of CIN at colposcopy. HPV DNA-positive cases have a final diagnosis of CIN in 30%, 45% and 80% of cases when the initial repeat Pap smear cytology is negative, ASCUS and SIL, respectively; whereas, HPV DNA-negative cases have a final diagnosis of CIN in 5%, 5% and 25%, respectively, for the same respective initial cytology diagnoses.^42 Of 995 women who had ASCUS and also had HPV testing as part of their routine screening, all the women had had either follow-up colposcopy or repeat Pap tests. Results of the HPV testing and histology were available for 973 of the women and of these, 65 (6.7%) were found to have HSILs or, in the case of one women, cancer.^43 In 89.2% of the women who were later discovered to have HSILs, HPV testing done as part of their first screening had been positive. By comparison, repeat Pap testing of these women had been abnormal in 76.2% of the cases but the difference was not statistically
significant.^43 It was concluded that HPV testing makes it possible to identify most women with ASCUS who are at high risk of a subsequent diagnosis of HSIL on the basis of a single screening procedure.

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Re: aldara

2007-12-29 03:18:58

Jesus christ, that's CRAZY. I didn't even know that could happen.
Wow.
I hope this aldara works for me.
Thanks everyone.

question regarding oral warts

2007-12-28 19:19:02

I was just wondering if anyone has gotten oral warts. They say that
they are very uncommon. How ever I think that I do have them. I have
a doctors apt. on friday to find out. I went once before and the
nurse said no way it is very rare to get them in your mouth or on you
lips, but when I showed her the white bump on my lip she refussed to
believe it was a wart. Now it fells like there are all down my tounge
and throut. I just wanted to know if anyone have ever heard of people
getting them there and what they can do to get ride of them.
Also for anyone who has ever had anal sex do you have to worrie about
them being in your colon, and getting tested for them. I am having
lots of problems finding doctors who will treat my warts. Even harder
to find ones that know what they are doing. I was turned down from 10
different doctors and finnaly found a sexual health clinic but its
just nurses no doctors there.
Thank you for your in put Hailiey

Re: [hpv_support] question regarding oral warts

2007-12-28 18:56:31

doesn't sound like what you have in your mouth could be warts. hopefully,
you'll have a good doctor who can tell you what they are and get them taken care
of. good luck!

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-28 06:13:18

Hey Sara,
I love your advice as always, [INLINE] Thanks for saying the nice stuff;we are trying to work things out,you see he's trying to prepare me for if we break up,he's got goals he wants to achieve before he gets very serious and I guess he dons't see them happaning while he's with me and he dons't want to be one of those couples that dates forever.If he accomplishes them while we are together he might date if he feels like it,which right now he wants only to be with me,I am only his second serious girlfriend.He is only my second serious relationship as well but I had enough playing the field,while he spent his dating years with only a few people.
I don't like to think that someday it might be me calling him on the phone while his new girl sits by his side trying not to listen,I don't think knowing I might be her one day won't make the day any easier like he seems to think.
He has a few physical flaws that I share,skinny(I am not so skinny now)and not a perfect nose.I was an awkward kid and so was he,so he says thats why he would not quickly consider marriage because our poor kids would go through what we went through in school.I am cool with my flaws now,I even modeled for a little while so I know I came through like the swan in the ugly duckling story.
He loves me a lot..he needs work and I will still be hurt but laugh my @$$ off if he break up with me to find someone with a better nose.It's silly..
I hate to waste time but he says we aren't we are in love and thats not a waste.If you love somebody why would you remind them their days are numbed,I guess he thinks he saving me from myself....I don't know...
I am chillin for now,hang here for awhile see how this all plays out,but girl;sometimes I think about saying I can't do it..
Pray for me send good vibes my way or something..lol..same will come back for you..
Peace,
B-

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-28 05:19:52

AA..

Girl you helped too,your a cool chic...I am thinking things over.. What I wrote to Sara

gose for you too...

Tired of typeing...lol

Spell cheack hates me...

Peace

B-
A A <mokmoq@...

Sara I know you don't know me that the email you sent
B really touched me ...and I just want to say that I
agree with you.

Vaccine?

2007-12-27 15:25:17

Has anyone heard of a vaccine for HPV that is suppose to come out
sometime in the near future? What are the updates on that, does
anyone know? And, has anyone heard of Oxi-med at wartcream.com?
Does this stuff really get rid of the virus once and for all, because
that's what I understand that they claim to do?

Re: [hpv_support] High Risk HPV

2007-12-27 12:30:48

Hi Sandy I know that it so hard to do with, and no one wants to. I think about about having HPV almost everyday, I can't deal with it. You think that you have done everything you could to protect yourself for any std's but it doen't even matter. You wish that you would have never even had sex, and think that you may never again. But the worse worrie of all is cancer. It scares me to death. You just have to be strong, I know that it is very hard to except but things happen for a reason. I am 20 and I have had Hpv for a year and from my first partner. And I just think to myself although it is hard belive there are people out there worse off then me. And it could have been I have the most innocent std when I could have just as easily gotten aids. (as much as that hurt to say) Sandy you just have to try to think of anything that makes you fell better about this and realize that your not alone.
Sandy <innerchildtheone@...

Hello I had a pap smear and asked for an HPV test. I
found that the results were, one or more strains of
high risk hpv, the pap smear was clean otherwise.
What do you make of this? I know all about dysplasia,
I had GW ten years ago and had laser surgery. But my
paps since have been clean. I was hoping I didn't have
the high risk sort but apparently I do.
What or do you have any advice for me to get through
today? I feel very dark in my mind about this, I feel
ignorant all over again, and feel I am starting over
after all this. I do not want to feel like a bad
person and I am struggling with that feeling that I am
worthless and a devil for going out into the world.
How can I win over this feeling, otherwise I won't be
able to face anyone today?
Sandy

Re: loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-27 04:34:13

B,
Awww sweety, I just read your letter. I know that it really sucks to feel
like you are just some girl! I know we have never met but I think that you
are a wonderful person. Everytime I have a problem you are the first to
reply or encourage. I can see you have a kindred spirit and are probably
very beautiful both inside and out. If he has such a hard time seeing these
awsome qualities you possess then maybe he wasn't worth it in the first
place. Im sure you love him and I know that it is hard to walk away from
something you love so much. Trust me, Im still trying to walk away from mine
... but in all honesty, you know what is best for you. If he doesn't treat
you the way you feel that you deserve to be treated, or if he makes you feel
bad when you know there is no reason for it, he is a creepo, or at least has
some serious creepo qualities about him. Im sure he holds you responsible
for this whole hpv shit, my b'f does too. But that is just CRAP, there is no
way to know who had what or where it came from originally. After all, some
people don't develop symptoms until several years after infection, hell,
some people never get 'em at all. Do you feel like it is the hpv that causes
him to be so callous? My b'f and I have various other problems I'll admitt,
we have been together for like a year and a half, maybe more ... not quite
sure ... but out of all the problems we deal with, he never gives me shit
about the hpv. He tells me that he loves me so much that it doesn't even
bother him. Sometimes we bicker about who gave it to whom or something, but
when it comes down to it, he loves me warts and all. If someone tells you
they love you, I believe that there are no terms or conditions, love is
unconditional ... therefor for him to say I love you but (fill in the blank)
is just garbage.
If it is fear of dating that holds you back from leaving him, dont' be
afraid. Like I know that is easy to say, but having hpv is the goof proof
method of quickly sorting out those who are after your "goods" and those
who value more than that. Im moving to a new college in July of 2004 and am
really worried that I'll never meet a guy again (b'c my b'f and I will be
splitting up). But we can't let that hold us to unhappy ties, you know? I
dunno if I helped you at all, I tried. I just think that as little girls we
all had this ideal man in mind who would love us and take care of us and
treat us just so. I really believe it is wrong to settle for anything less.
Especially some guy who doesn't even have the sense to value such a
wonderful person such as yourself. Peace babe.
~ Sara (Braissen)

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-27 04:30:52

Sara I know you don't know me that the email you sent
B really touched me ...and I just want to say that I
agree with you.

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-27 02:53:08

Listen B,

I have been there I just stayed for four years and I stayed longer and longer thinking that things would be different. Yeah, he gave the hov to me and had the nerve to ask me if I was stepping out. People only change when they want to. Yeah he might love you but, and I am sure you love him, but he is saying hurtful things to you, it is not a good feeling to feel like your days are numbered. You have to know that there is someone better and that it is okay to be scared to date..I know I am but eventually you and I both will get over that. You sound as if you are very supportive of him. I suggest you find out wher you all really stand and go from there.
B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

Hey Guys,

My loveing boyfriend of 9 months has yet informed me agian of the fact that I am just somebody he's seeing for now,after all we have been through I am just a pebble on the beach to this fool who says he loves me.I ain't looking to get married tommarow or 'nuthin but hell,telling me I ain't nothing more then some girl he dated and thier is no way in hell we are ever going to be more is mean,I don't care how nice he pretends to be.He has been exposed to this virus,I still wonder what he thinks ,sounds like he don't know he has this at all,he has had some damn bumps he got on his belly removed painfully twice and when they frist appeared had the nerve to ask if I cheated on him,I had no bumps or nothing ,later that week I had shaveing bumps appear,or so I think,they went away fast on me he's had them for awhile.I never had anything like them or knew anybody who had them it's something that starts with an M..Malascopia or something..

Anyhow,I am sweet and careing and gave him the chance to go now if he wanted.He says he wants to be with me but if I want out I can go anytime, I am really pretty too and don't have a shortage of guys waiting for him to f%&$ up,promblem is I fell for this guy,he's sweet in a lot of ways nobody else has ever been.He is the kind of man I would waste time with for awhile longer if I didn't think about the fact we eventually have to spilt.

I am scared of dateing anymore too,I want to get married now I think but not until I dated someone long enough to be sure.I don't know if I can look at him the same anymore,how can someone be so kind yet make me hurt so bad?How can someone so smart think I am the only one with this virus?How can he think I gave him those damn bumps???I want someone better and I know he's out thier...but should I stay around longer to finish the year?I love his family and his friends are soo cool.

Part of me hates him that he is so blind,I am above average in so many ways and he will never be as well taken care of as he was with me.I have been crying for days,lost pounds in water..lol..I don't know what I want....

Sara..what would you do?Ryan???

I remember this old moive wacthed with my moma one day when I was young where this guy went through hell for real to be with his wife one more day.I know he loves me too..but what can happen in these years or months that will not make it hurt any less when he says my time is up???

I wish I never met him sometimes,I don't need this pain, but seems some of us just live the bules...

B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

No...what channel is it on?I will look for it if I can get it here...I love anime buddies..they help me more goodies!!

Peace

B-
Sara Mclaughlin <shkidiliump@...

Hey B,

Have you ever seen Fruits Basket??? That is my favorite anime show!

~ Braissen

OXi-MED

2007-12-26 14:21:44

Has anyone tried OXi-MED or know if it works?
Their website claims that it cures genital warts and kills the virus
that causes them.
http://www.wartcream.com

High Risk HPV

2007-12-26 13:38:32

Hello I had a pap smear and asked for an HPV test. I
found that the results were, one or more strains of
high risk hpv, the pap smear was clean otherwise.
What do you make of this? I know all about dysplasia,
I had GW ten years ago and had laser surgery. But my
paps since have been clean. I was hoping I didn't have
the high risk sort but apparently I do.
What or do you have any advice for me to get through
today? I feel very dark in my mind about this, I feel
ignorant all over again, and feel I am starting over
after all this. I do not want to feel like a bad
person and I am struggling with that feeling that I am
worthless and a devil for going out into the world.
How can I win over this feeling, otherwise I won't be
able to face anyone today?
Sandy

loneliness..guys I need your help..

2007-12-25 22:18:14

Hey Guys,

My loveing boyfriend of 9 months has yet informed me agian of the fact that I am just somebody he's seeing for now,after all we have been through I am just a pebble on the beach to this fool who says he loves me.I ain't looking to get married tommarow or 'nuthin but hell,telling me I ain't nothing more then some girl he dated and thier is no way in hell we are ever going to be more is mean,I don't care how nice he pretends to be.He has been exposed to this virus,I still wonder what he thinks ,sounds like he don't know he has this at all,he has had some damn bumps he got on his belly removed painfully twice and when they frist appeared had the nerve to ask if I cheated on him,I had no bumps or nothing ,later that week I had shaveing bumps appear,or so I think,they went away fast on me he's had them for awhile.I never had anything like them or knew anybody who had them it's something that starts with an M..Malascopia or something..

Anyhow,I am sweet and careing and gave him the chance to go now if he wanted.He says he wants to be with me but if I want out I can go anytime, I am really pretty too and don't have a shortage of guys waiting for him to f%&$ up,promblem is I fell for this guy,he's sweet in a lot of ways nobody else has ever been.He is the kind of man I would waste time with for awhile longer if I didn't think about the fact we eventually have to spilt.

I am scared of dateing anymore too,I want to get married now I think but not until I dated someone long enough to be sure.I don't know if I can look at him the same anymore,how can someone be so kind yet make me hurt so bad?How can someone so smart think I am the only one with this virus?How can he think I gave him those damn bumps???I want someone better and I know he's out thier...but should I stay around longer to finish the year?I love his family and his friends are soo cool.

Part of me hates him that he is so blind,I am above average in so many ways and he will never be as well taken care of as he was with me.I have been crying for days,lost pounds in water..lol..I don't know what I want....

Sara..what would you do?Ryan???

I remember this old moive wacthed with my moma one day when I was young where this guy went through hell for real to be with his wife one more day.I know he loves me too..but what can happen in these years or months that will not make it hurt any less when he says my time is up???

I wish I never met him sometimes,I don't need this pain, but seems some of us just live the bules...

B Laww <a_dragonprincess@...

No...what channel is it on?I will look for it if I can get it here...I love anime buddies..they help me more goodies!!

Peace

B-
Sara Mclaughlin <shkidiliump@...

Hey B,

Have you ever seen Fruits Basket??? That is my favorite anime show!

~ Braissen

Re: hey

2007-12-25 18:11:35

Its wired. i didnt have warts just an abnormal pap. it said i had
abnormal cell so i had two surgery's and they were removed
Karen

Anyone with experience using 5-FU?

2007-12-25 12:13:27

I was diagnosed with HPV 4 weeks ago...I've seen 4 different
physicians, saw the first 4 weeks ago because of an external wart
(rectal, ugh) and come to find that i've also got it internally. The
first three physicians suggested getting them burned off surgically,
with much pain and up to two weeks recovery time. the fourth
physician, however, told me that the warts did not require a surgical
procedure...they were a viral infection and had to be treated like a
virus. He explained that after surgury, with the scarring, the skin
hardens and since the virus isn't completely eradicated it can still
grow in the same area and the skin can only scar over itself so many
times...
he explained that he hadn't done surgury for GW in over 5 years
because the rate of reinfection was as high as 80%. He suggested
that I use 5% Fluorauracil creme, a topical chemotherapy creme every
3 nights and nonoxynol-9 every night. I read somewhere that
nonoxynol9 could weaken the skin and make warts spread more rapidly?
Should I go ahead with the surgury scheduled in 2 weeks to burn them
off? Does anyone have any other knowledge on the 5-FU creme method?
He didn't even mention Aldara...There is much conflicting information
on this.

Ryans big mouth

2007-12-25 07:58:02

Well Someone is interested in getting to know me better. See what i
get for whineing about dating and loneliness!! LOL Well its in my
neighbor hood circle of friends. Alotta these guys i've known for
years and they dont know about my...... condition. My friend is
trying to set me up with a friend of his family.........We've only
just talked and have seen eachother in passing.. He kinda pressured
me into talking to her..i thought she was cute so... why not???
right? I figure keep it no pressure ..... hang out ... get to know
eachother....good plan right???? But what if she is wanting to get
laid rather sooner than lata? (I've always been the type to have
girlfriends not date around and my friends think i should be more of
a playa so to speak.enjoy singleness more.) tThen i gotta do the
speech and hope to god she keeps it to her self. Plan of attack:
keep it simple as possible, and deal with the bridges as they come.
All comments and Q's welcome. I know this isnt a big deal. But you
guys are always so cool 'bout stuff. also latest news i got a screw
removed(compound fracture of the Tibia and fibula in feb.) last tues.
so should be able to jog soon and maybe get a new bike. yey!!!!!!!!

Re: [hpv_support] hey

2007-12-24 21:39:14

That is a question of much debate. More than likely not in my opinion, if you have been sympton free for a log while. It seems to be a crap shoot. Symtoms show us that the virus is actively replicating. On the other hand it could just be chilling (asymptomatic) and waiting to be transmitted by just the right conditions. In this case SIZE does matter.. it only takes a small amount of virus (thousands) to get into the deeper tissue to replicate right? If the period at the end of this sentance were one hpv particle your whole house would be a skin cell. So how easy would it be for this to find a tear in our skin right...... but what do i know i clean toilets for a living. LOL lata playas
Karen <krazkare@...

I'm new to the group i had hpv w/ dispasia and pre cancerous
cell. does anyone no if i am still contagoius??
Thank you
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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hey

2007-12-24 20:36:08

I'm new to the group i had hpv w/ dispasia and pre cancerous
cell. does anyone no if i am still contagoius??
Thank you

Madeira Beach Is Only Three Weeks Away

2007-12-24 18:49:03

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2007-12-24 10:28:08

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Re: HPV and cancer......

2007-12-24 05:28:05

hi, i'm new here, but i wanted to say something to you.
i was very recently diagnosed but i have been doing extensive
reading on the subject and i wanted to say that from my
understanding, your best defense, a prophylactic so to speak, is to
keep yourself really healthy.
keep up your immune system with echinacea, burdock and goldenseal.
also, make sure you take multi vitamins and flax oil and if you can
stomach it, take aloe juice internally. all this alongside eating a
very healthy diet.
HPV is, after all, a virus and i think that maintaining your
physical health will keep the virus impotent.
but that's just my thoughts.
you should buy the book "what your doctor did NOT tell you about HPV
and abnormal PAP smears". i found it VERY helpful. :)

Re: Please give me some advise

2007-12-23 20:06:17

i agree with Ncol Guy ...

Re: [hpv_support] Please give me some advise

2007-12-23 18:17:07

Hi peacegrl20032003,
First bit of advice - breath, relax, there is nothing
that getting wound up over it will do to help you out.
Second - you're going to see your doc, great! The
waiting is the hardest part here. Hopefully your
doctor will give you an accurate diagnosis and proper
suggestions for dealing with whatever it is.
Worst case, it is HPV - well, you've gone down that
road before. Aldara has worked well for me in the
past, it sounds like it has for you too. So if indeed
it is HPV, you get more cream, or maybe get the little
buggers frozen or removed with a lasar.
New breakouts of HPV are a definite possibility.
Hopefully that's not the case, but it could very well
be.
Getting stressed over the uncertainty is a real bitch.
I wish you well!

Please give me some advise

2007-12-23 15:03:46

I was diagnosed with hpv back in february. I used the aldara cream
which worked. Recently I noticed a bunch of white bumps on the lips
of my vagina. I am almost positive they have always been there, but
of course when I see anything that I am not sure of I freak out.
Could this just be clogged sweat glands. I have a drs appointment
the beginning of November, but it is driving me nuts having to wait.
I am almost positive they aren't warts, because they aren't what I
had. They are just a bunch of little white bumps. I have been
checking on them for about a month now and they haven't gotten any
bigger. Please give some advise. I am driving myself crazy thinking
they are warts.

Re: [hpv_support] anyone HPV negative and in a relationship with someone positive?

2007-12-23 08:21:49

Look through some of the links that were posted last
week. I don't believe you can have sex, safely,
without a reasonable risk of transmitting it (condoms
are only partially effective).
But, the chances of transmission lessen dramatically
the longer the time is since your last symptom.
Eventually the virus will either lie dromant or be
eliminated from your body.
Read this article:
http://www.dvpcenter.com/Info_Human_Papilloma_Virus.htm
There are others, but it seems that the consensus is
that the virus will be untraceable in the not to
distant future. In the meantime, though, the
likelyhood of transmission is pretty high (as long as
the virus is active).

anyone HPV negative and in a relationship with someone positive?

2007-12-22 16:32:16

I'd like to hear from people (specifically woman, since they are at
higher risk of infection) that are with someone with this disease,
but are negative. I'd like to know if it's possible to have
a "normal" relationship providing you take precautions.
Thanx in advance!

HPV and cancer......

2007-12-22 09:19:29

.......hi everyone, I'm new here. I am a cervical cancer survivor
and I have recently become aware that HPV is a cause of even the
rather rare form of cervical cancer that I came down with. Anyway,
I've become obsessed with fears now over anal cancer and even oral
cancer. I feel I may have some type of inborn susceptibility to HPV
that allowed it to transform my cervical cells. Last year I had a
patch of inflammation in my lower bowel that caused a bit of
bleeding (colonoscopy and biopsy were negative).
I have an appointment with the doctor on Monday and I don't even
know where to start with all my fears. I CANNOT get cancer again! My
pelvis has already been radiated once.....it could not withstand
radiation again, which would be part of the standard treatment for
anal cancer. I would seriously consider a prophylactic colostomy.
I'm hoping to find support, information and advocacy here.....as
well as provide the same to others.
All this and none of my docs......not even my oncologist..... has
ever mentioned HPV. Are they clueless? They could've prevented any
possibility of DH transmitting it to my rectum/anus.
Thanks for reading and TIA for responses.

Re: Artificial Insemination and HPV

2007-12-22 05:58:24

Where'd you get that the virus is contained in body fluids? I thought
it would only be contained in fluids that passed over infected skin,
so it could be found in semen or urine if the virus was growing in the
urethra.
windy

Re: [hpv_support] Artificial Insemination and HPV

2007-12-22 04:55:55

i'm just guessing here, so anyone should feel free to jump in ... but, since
the hpv virus is contained in bodily fluids (thus, semen), it would seem to me
that the mother would be exposed.
as for the baby, i have cut and pasted, below, what i found on columbia
university's health Q&A webpage, which is all consistent with what i've heard
several times. (in a nutshell, the issue seems to be the possibility of the
baby getting the virus during vaginal birth, and not from the semen that made
the baby.) anyway, here's what i found - second paragraph is key.
"If a woman has HPV (human papillomavirus), the virus that causes genital warts,
the warts may appear on the outside of the vagina and/or on the inner walls of
the vagina and on the cervix. Genital warts don't interfere with a woman's
ability to get pregnant. However, during pregnancy, warts may get larger,
probably due to increasing levels of estrogen. Warts along the vaginal wall
might make the vagina less flexible and elastic during delivery. It may not be
advisable to have the warts removed at this point because of the unknown
possibility of birth defects caused by the substances used to remove them.
Instead, Cesarean delivery might be recommended when there is a possibility of
warts being present toward the end of a woman's pregnancy.
As for your question about a child being born with HPV, it's unlikely. There
have been some cases where women with HPV in their vaginal canals during birth
have passed the virus on to their babies in the form of laryngeal papilloma,
which affects their throat, but this is quite rare."
hope that helps!

Artificial Insemination and HPV

2007-12-22 02:42:55

I was recently diagnosed with HPV. My doctor was not even sure of the
diagnosis the first time that I went to him. Anyway, I am dealing
with many different emotions about this situation.
I want to know if anyone out there has breached the subject
of "Artificial Insemiantion" ?
I am a gay male that has recently deceided (over years of pondering)
that "YES", I do want a child, desperately.
I researched and made the decision of AI. However, now with this new
diagnoses, I am not sure if I can still achieve my goal, without
infecting the mother or child.
If any knows could you please post an answer. My doctor says "He's
not sure ?" (That didn't help me worth didly.)

Re: [hpv_support] First wart

2007-12-21 14:24:40

Hey Karmen,

My baby has had his moments like we all do and he has removed some

other bumps off his belly that his doc said was not HPV but it hurts,he is sweet and I am

blessed to have somone like him.We almost broke up for the sake of his pertection but the doc explianed a lot of things to him and we are stronger then ever.He has handled it very well and I am sure your BF will too becuse he loves you already and this is a small thing in world of todays STD's.We all could be worse off,yes all of us no matter where we

are...enjoy each other ..take comfort in haveing each others back.Love is a gift..if you have it you won't let it go..it's the way it is..

Peace Chick..

B-
Karmen <karmen_nicole2003@...

My bf just got his first wart after three years and two months since
we have been together. It was scary at first, but then I told
myself, hey, I have hpv also and I know how to handle it. He's not
upset since I told him earlier in the relationship. I am just happy
that we are in a long-term committed relationship. How are you guys
dealing with hpv and dating? How does your girlfriend handles it?
-Karmen
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First wart

2007-12-21 06:48:51

My bf just got his first wart after three years and two months since
we have been together. It was scary at first, but then I told
myself, hey, I have hpv also and I know how to handle it. He's not
upset since I told him earlier in the relationship. I am just happy
that we are in a long-term committed relationship. How are you guys
dealing with hpv and dating? How does your girlfriend handles it?
-Karmen

Re: Real information is key! Go to a specialist!

2007-12-21 05:59:14

Thank you for posting this info.

Real information is key! Go to a specialist!

2007-12-20 21:07:02

My wifes doctor is the head of the Dyspareunia and Vulvar Pain Center
at Johns Hopkins and this is his sub-specialty. Here is their web
site...
http://www.dvpcenter.com/Info_Human_Papilloma_Virus.htm
Prior to meeting with him, we were upsetting ourselves with partial
and mis-information from this and other sites. All I can say is, if
you don't have a specialist, get one. It helps a lot! Our meeting
was very enlightening.
No, there is no vaccine for HPV, but it does eventially go away
completely. Not Herpes remission, go away, but completely gone like
you got over the flu, go away. Usually in about 8 months max, with a
30% minority hanging onto it a little longer. Put simply, if it's
undetectable, it's not there. In the mean time, it's possible to
have no symptoms. And, generally, recurrance is infrequent.
Yes, there are potenially serious symptoms to HPV ranging from warts
and lessions to cervical abnormalities and cancer in women. But, not
all HPV infections are high risk and not all high risk infections
cause abnormalities.
It is NOT always sexually transmitted. You can easilly get it from a
toilet seat or some similar situation. (this is from the nurse
manager who just came back from a symposium).
Condoms are 80% effective for protecting men, but not woman because
the virus can linger on the scrotum and areas around the penis that
could come in contact with vaginal tissue.
People have got to stop treating this like it is a lifelong disease
with the same stigma, as herpes or HIV, with support groups and
closed circle dating. Yes, there are serious health risks that need
to be monitored while you've got it (for women), and you may want to
think twice about who you sleep with for a while, but you are not
condemned to a life of celebacy or sex with only HPV infected
individuals.

Re: [hpv_support] Real information is key! Go to a specialist!

2007-12-20 20:22:25

Thanks. You just more than made my day!!
I will be looking for a specialist, but in the
meantime that is priceless information.
--- incommunicado2210 <incommunicado2210@...

Re: Why can't someone make a conclusion!!!

2007-12-20 12:45:49

It would be nice to know if you are contagious or not. It's
ridiculous. Seems like they are making some slow progress I guess.

Why can't someone make a conclusion!!!

2007-12-20 06:29:18

These quotes are driving me mad:
"
There is no "cure" for HPV, although the infection
usually goes away on its own.
"
from
http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Fact_Sheets/FactsHPV.htm
and
" Recent studies from the Albert Einstein College of
Medicine and from the University of Washington suggest
that HPV may eventually be cleared, or rooted out
altogether, in most people with well-functioning
immune systems. However, in at least some cases the
virus apparently does remain in the body for life,
able to produce symptoms if the immune system weakens.
"
from http://www.ashastd.org/hpvccrc/hpvmyth.html
"Most HPV infections appear to be temporary and are
probably cleared up by the body?s immune system. One
study in college students showed that in 91 percent of
women with new HPV infections, HPV became
undetectable within two years (Ho, 1998). However,
reactivation or reinfection is possible.
"
from:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/od/news/RevBrochure1pdfhpv.htm
This conclusion is showing up more and more as sites
get updated from the "you'll have it forever" horror.
So what the hell does that mean!!?? Is it gone? How
can anyone draw a conclusion about anything without
tests?!
My own conclusion is that you are free of the virus
after 2+ years, and only in extreme cases it will come
back. That's assuming you never have a new sexual
partner, because you'd have a 3 of 4 chance of getting
it again, anyway.
Anyone want to comment on this? My current, crazy
doctor, when asked about hpv just told me 'oh, you
know more about this than I do' and basically
concluded her informatin was outdated. That was a big
help!

Re: [hpv_support] OH SHIT!!!

2007-12-19 21:42:02

Hang on kido..if it's meant to be it will happen,he dosn't hate you ,he hates HPV..trust me I have been all over this one.

B-
Sara <shkidiliump@...

Guys,
There is this guy I fooled around with before i knew i had HPV and
i've been trying to figure out how to tell him I had hpv while we
messed around. We never slept together, but you all know that doesn't
matter. So I finally mustered the balls to tell him today, and he
took it really badly. I feel like the devil. He is still a pretty
good friend. The only reason we didn't go all the way, or hook up was
b/c he had a girlfriend. Im not a bad person, but when you know two
people are right for each other, it is hard to fight it. Our
relationship goes far beyond purely physical. But now I think he
hates me. Plus, his girlfriend is probably gonna want to kill me. But
it was all unintentional. I got the bad end of the deal here you
know. I have it, plus I had to tell him that I could have given it to
him. I said I was sorry athousand times. What should I do. Someone
please write me back!
Braissen
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Re: So... does this ever go away for good or is it like Herpes and is always dormant

2007-12-19 13:45:33

I think I gave off the wrong impression. I'm the one prepared to end
things to protect him. Also, I'm disappointed that we got into
something fun and now it's basically ruined before it really even got
started.
It's true, he doesn't want to catch it if he doesn't already have it,
so anything we can do to limit that possibility would be great, but
he isn't looking to leave and isn't worried if we can't play with
others.
How, do you figure out which strain you have and the likelyhood of
recovery? For instance, could I have strain #72 with a good chance of
full recovery within a few months, or strain #95 with all sorts of
visible side effects and the permanence of Herpes?
The hardest part, is that we have watched those ads where the pretty
girl says " When I found out I had Herpes, I thought my life was
over..." And we both commented that, it didn't matter how nice a
person someone was, we shared the common opinion that, were we
single, neither of us would date anyone with Herpes and would
probably leave once we found out. Now were faced with something
pretty similar and I think it's very unfair to ask him to stay. If
he doesn't have it, then he's sure to get it eventually and there's
no reason for us to share this.
Again, is there any sure-fire protection other than abstenance?
Dental dams? Condoms with spermicide? Some kind of super oxygenated
medicine to kill all surface traces of the virus?

Re: [hpv_support] So... does this ever go away for good or is it like Herpes and is always dormant

2007-12-19 13:10:25

First of all, OUCH!! It's unfortunate that you guys
are even discussing breaking up over this!! I pray
it's only a knew jerk reaction.
Second, if you have it, he has been exposed. Whether
he has it, or will ever develop sysmptoms is anyone's
guess.
Third, I am guessing that he REALLY likes the kinkier
lifestyle and doens't want to jeopardize it with a
std? Correct me if I am wrong, of course. You should
also know, or he should, that the risk is
significantly higher where there is more sex, with
more partners. I'd guess that if 75% of the average
folk have it, 90% of the kinky folk have it! It's
just that likely, especially with open acts where you
aren't clothed, even if it isn't straight forward sex.
Now doen't get me wrong, I am not looking down upon an
alternative lifestyle, to each his own, but it does
introduce more risk.
Forth, even if you were to break up, he'd have a 3 in
4 chance of hitting it again with his next partner,
even higher based on the assumptions above. He NEEDS
to realize that. It's shocker just learning the
stats!
Lastly, don't lose sight of what you have. You worked
for your relationship - don't throw it away for
something that is trivial compared to a marriage.
Talk and learn, together. He can't be tested, so he
should assume he has been exposed. What that means,
that's up to how you interpret the limited 'facts'.
Read this article:
http://www.ashastd.org/hpvccrc/hpvmyth.html
It has the closets things to the truth.
I've had it for 3 years with no symptoms, so, by this
article and the CDC findings, i should not be
contagious or might not have it at all. The catch is
that there is no way to know 100%.
--- incommunicado2210 <incommunicado2210@...

So... does this ever go away for good or is it like Herpes and is always dormant

2007-12-18 23:06:49

I have had constant recurring yeast and bacterial infections for
months and have been urging my doctor(s) to test for everything. I
went for a gyn visit today because I was still uncomfortable but left
because they kept me waiting for an hour and I had to get to school.
After I left, the doctor called to say that the test he ran last
week, came up positive for HPV and he wished I had stuck around so we
could discuss treatment. That's all I know. I don't even know which
of the 100 strains it is (wart causing, cancer causing, etc.).
I am married and we suspect that I got it when we got adventurous
with another couple (my husband hasn't been tested yet, but that
should be tomorrow). Figures, the one time we decide to do something
fun and exciting and it comes back to bite us.
So... does this EVER go away? Not Herpes, lay dormant go away, but
complete recovery no longer anywhere in your system go away?
How do I have sex (ALL SEX) again without absolutely, positively,
NEVER transmitting to the person I am with? If my husband doesn't
have it already, I am prepared to end our marriage to protect his
health. We have already discussed that, if he doesn't have it, he
doesn't want it.
What can we do? Thanks for your help!

Re: OH SHIT!!!

2007-12-18 22:37:08

His reaction comes from ignorance. He doesn't know that you're
probably not the first woman who's had sex with him while she didn't
know she had hpv. He probably needs to know how prevalent it is. Even
if you told him, the numbers need to sink in.
His girlfriend should be more pissed off at him than at you.
Don't beat yourself up over it. You can't be expected to act on
information that you didn't have. Once you did know, you told him.
windy

Re: [hpv_support] loneliness...also some of my story

2007-12-18 09:09:31

When I found out that I had HPV, I was mortified. After the initial shock of it all (feeling disgusted, lost, confused and what not) I started to wonder where would that lead me as far as having a normal (or at least what I had before) sex life. A little bit of my history here...had a healthy sex life at the start of my relationship with my son's father (#1, it was before I had my son and it was a new relationship). Then I had my son (6 yrs. ago) After having him, my sex drive went down the tubes (it's normal for a while after having a baby but mine lasted for 5 years). So my ex and I broke up (mainly because of my lack of a sex drive). I had seen a counselor trying to figure out what the problem was (this is when I believe I had an abnormal pap) anyhow, I started to venture back into the dating scene (thinking that maybe my problems of a low sex drive was because of my ex (parenting duties fell onto my lap, not his) Here I was dating again, started to have the
giddiness and interest in sex. I thought WOW, I can be normal. I realized that I do like to have sex after all. Then BAM! "you have hpv" my doc says. Wait a minute, I am not a slut, I am not having sex with every guy I know and I made sure he wore a condom, up until last year, I didn'teven want it! My nieve ass thinking that way. So I am back to where I was before, only now I want it. I want to feel normal and not all icky. Alot of it has to do with accepting the fact that I have HPV before I can move on to anything.

I know where you are coming from. All I can tell you is it takes time (this is what I tell myself, only I have to listen to it as well). Any time you want to whine and vent, I am here (as well as the rest of the group).

bebop0713 <bebop0713@...

How do some of you that are single deal with it? What do you tell ur
selves? etc. I work and skool fulltime, have hobbies, lots of
friends & family. I'm none stop busy and i tell myself," i dont need
a women to be happy." For the most part I am happy with my life.
But sumtimes when i see couples, or have no one to share my triumphs
with i think, WTF!!!!! why cant that be me???! I'm short dark and
handsome and have a lot to offer besides. So i have a minor skin
problem thats contagious. It could be worse i could be a complete
dumbass, not hold a job, be unreliable, an asshole, alcoholic, etc.
but noooooooooo. i know i should be thankful. But......... having no
one special to be thankful with gets old sumtimes. Thanx guys for
listening to me whine.
lata playas
ryan
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OH SHIT!!!

2007-12-18 07:35:57

Guys,
There is this guy I fooled around with before i knew i had HPV and
i've been trying to figure out how to tell him I had hpv while we
messed around. We never slept together, but you all know that doesn't
matter. So I finally mustered the balls to tell him today, and he
took it really badly. I feel like the devil. He is still a pretty
good friend. The only reason we didn't go all the way, or hook up was
b/c he had a girlfriend. Im not a bad person, but when you know two
people are right for each other, it is hard to fight it. Our
relationship goes far beyond purely physical. But now I think he
hates me. Plus, his girlfriend is probably gonna want to kill me. But
it was all unintentional. I got the bad end of the deal here you
know. I have it, plus I had to tell him that I could have given it to
him. I said I was sorry athousand times. What should I do. Someone
please write me back!
Braissen

Re: [hpv_support] loneliness

2007-12-18 04:09:23

Not sure about you, but I could never tell myself that
I could/would like without women. No, I love too much
about them, about the chemistry in a good
relationship, sex, etc., to not think about women and
the happiness that comes with a good relationship.
I keep busy, for sure, exercise, hobbies, etc., but I
do want it all and will not give up until it's
achieved (although, I should point out, that goals and
expectations for life change through time - it's all
relative to where you are in life).
So if I were to give advice, and I am a lonely, sinlge
guy with hpv too, it would be to just keep trying.
There are people that are almost perfect, without hpv,
that can't find happiness, then there are those that
are worse off than us that can still find it. No one
knows where it is, or the correct formula to achieve
it, so we all must keep going on our little journeys,
hoping it will show up one day. But the more you try,
the more you attempt to get out there and find it, the
more likely you are to achieve it. Nothing good comes
without effort, as they say.
I am going to be on a little campaign here: join the
std dating sites! It seems so many are worried no one
will accept them, etc., but here is a way around that.
But there needs to be interest in it and more people
joining AND posting photographs (although I was
reluctant at first, too). It's an easy way to move
things ahead. It may amoung to nothing, but when you
go browsing through there, you'll realise you are not
alone, and there are so many searching.

loneliness

2007-12-18 02:15:54

How do some of you that are single deal with it? What do you tell ur
selves? etc. I work and skool fulltime, have hobbies, lots of
friends & family. I'm none stop busy and i tell myself," i dont need
a women to be happy." For the most part I am happy with my life.
But sumtimes when i see couples, or have no one to share my triumphs
with i think, WTF!!!!! why cant that be me???! I'm short dark and
handsome and have a lot to offer besides. So i have a minor skin
problem thats contagious. It could be worse i could be a complete
dumbass, not hold a job, be unreliable, an asshole, alcoholic, etc.
but noooooooooo. i know i should be thankful. But......... having no
one special to be thankful with gets old sumtimes. Thanx guys for
listening to me whine.
lata playas
ryan

Re: [hpv_support] does HPV go away?

2007-12-17 18:40:05

Unfortunately, they do not have any accurate way of
knowing if you do or not (same with guys, like me).
It's aweful, really, knowing that there is a very good
chance that after 2 years of being symptom free we
most likely are free of the virus (as concluded by the
CDC), but still have to tell everyone because there
'may' be a small chance it is still there.
It's too bad that the reasearch is not going into
learning more and accurate testing.
Frustrating, to say the least. I've been symptom free
for 3 years, but I 'could' have it - I'll never know.
At least it is almost impossible to transfer it, after
so much time. That's good.

advice needed

2007-12-17 06:58:21

it has been so long since i have dated someone...i have recently met
a guy (whom so far is everything that i have ever dreamed of and
wanted in a companion)...the good thing about the whole situation
right now is that we live approx seven hours from one another..that i
really like and vice versa...the subject of intimacy comes up every
now and then...we have agreed to take it slow...we have talked about
our past relationships and bed buddies...i want to tell him but i
don't know how or when...should i wait but i don't want to wait to
long...i want him to give him enough time to think it over and make
sure this is what he really wants...i am contemplating whether or not
i should tell him over the phone but i make break down and cry...the
other option is to pick up a between me and you card and enclose a
letter...what do you think?...

Re: [hpv_support] advice needed

2007-12-17 05:30:42

I was recently infected with HVP and Herpes. Still adjusting and a long,
long, long way to go. I don't think that you ethically have any choice but
to advsie him accordingly. If he is in love with you, really in love with
you, he will find some way to manage the issue internally. If he does not
love you he won't hestiate for a second. Chances are he has made an
investment in you and the odds are after the shock he might come around.
But who really knows. You don't and he dosn't until you confront the issue.
You have to tell him. If you don't and he contracts you risk everything.
Better to know up front.

Re: my story

2007-12-16 16:02:38

same thing happened with my ex
just relax some. There are others like you out there.
serious, not to advertise or anything, but www.positivesingles.com
is a good place to start, as well as these groups.
get over her, she sounds like she doesn't care!
my ex is out fucking my old friend now....a month after she fucked
another friend of mine. She knows, and is lying to them. I tried to
tell them, but she's telling them that i'm a lying sack of shit
that's trying to ruin her life!
:)
karma is a bitch

Madeira Beach Link Correction

2007-12-16 12:11:20

Oops, that's http://www.southfloridahfriends.com/madeira.htm
Sorry!

Leigh

Madeira Beach/ Alternate Hotels/ What does my fee cover?

2007-12-16 07:00:43

Hey Gang,

Hope everyone is getting geared up for Madeira Beach! The Holiday Inn is SOLD OUT, so Addy sent me this info for alternate hotels:
The Holiday Inn Treasure Island
Located on Gulf Rd - only 3 miles south of the Holiday Inn
727-367-2761
Rates are $79.00 and up for rooms
The Hilton Redington Beach is 2 miles North on Gulf Blvd
727-391-4000
$99.00 Inland Rooms
$119.00 Gulfview Rooms.
Also, there seemed to be some questions about the event fee, since there wasn't one last year or the year before, so Addy sent this message to help clear up any confusion:

Hi everyone!!
Just a few words on the Madeira fee...this small cost to you will cover a most yummy all you can eat Luau buffet on Saturday evening! Deb and I have already sampled the food and it is sooooo good! Then a small portion of the costs will also cover your registration. You will be given a name tag and wrist band at our registration table. We feel that there have been so many people who didnt know who was with the group at Madeira previously that we now want to make it easier for everyone to know who is with the group. These wristbands will also get you many other special things! There will be gifts....and special prizes..and not only that...these wrist bands will get you special prices at the Tiki Bar and the Kicks Sports Bar at the hotel and other special prices at other local hot spots that we have set up! We will be giving you all these details on your itineray when you register

We are going to have so much fun! Looking forward to seeing all my old friends and those who will be attending for the first time!
Who's your Addy??? ;)~

Please visit http://wwww.southfloridahfriends.com/madeira.htm for more details, or email Addy at adfame @ aol . com

Hope to see you there

Re: [hpv_support] my story

2007-12-16 01:14:22

I was recently diagnosed with HPV and Herpes. I know where I contracted
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